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Post by AnthroHeart on Jan 18, 2023 20:06:35 GMT
Is it better to help the collective, or help yourself?
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Post by Victronyx on Jan 18, 2023 20:53:42 GMT
Both. For example when you help yourself to remove some blockages and to raise your vibrational state, Your high vibrations can affect people around you (especially those who are the most receptive to these vibrations), it can be helpful to them and it can unconsciously help them to expand their consciousness.
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Post by AnthroHeart on Jan 18, 2023 21:07:09 GMT
I like helping the collective, because it comes back to me.
I feel the energy reverberating back on me.
Ra, in the Law of One, said we are not here to fix it, we are here to love it.
So I focus on loving the collective. It seems to shift things too.
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Post by Victronyx on Jan 18, 2023 21:52:44 GMT
That's great! I still have some struggles with the collective. I have made peace with rude and disrespectful people, and I would love to help people, but many of them don't want to be helped even when I provide them solutions, because they lack willpower, courage and maturity to confront their problems. That's why I only help the ones I know and love, but since they don't often feel the need to be helped, I focus more on charging and cleansing water + crystals + my environment, and I focus on healing plants and animals.
If these people don't want to change their current state of being, and if we force a change in them (with the Repeater or with our inner powers) to make them evolve and feel better, I'm not sure it will respect their free will.
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Post by AnthroHeart on Jan 19, 2023 16:35:01 GMT
My shaman says: "The more that you shift, so does the collective, Focus on yourself"
So now I'm focused on myself. Victronyx was right in that it could violate others free will who don't want to change.
It would be like if someone forced me out of my comfort zone.
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Post by AnthroHeart on Jan 19, 2023 20:43:44 GMT
I think loving the collective and not trying to change it can be healing. The energy feels better when I am loving.
When I'm not focused on loving myself or the collective, the energy becomes antsy and burns slightly. Probably because the collective is antsy.
I like to work on the energy of what is. The default energy that I feel and work on shifting that to feel better. Using love of course. And compassion.
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Post by Victronyx on Jan 19, 2023 22:19:21 GMT
What you and your shaman say resonates within me.
I have that type of feeling too when I don't focus on loving and respecting myself. It can also create overheating effects on my body.
I don't know if this happens to you, but there was a day where I was in a very good mood. I went to see my colleagues at work and I felt a shift in the environmental atmosphere, some people tended to be more friendly and welcoming. Shortly after, I heard a news that made me stressed, and suddenly some people started looking at me, as if I was a threat to them, and when I was on my way to home, someone tried to start a fight with me. It really felt like I was a targeted individual.
Now I'm sure that if I were back to being in a good mood, those bad things would never happen. That's how I realized that many people can change the collective if they spent time working on themselves. Now I can easily shift back to a high vibrational state and I have no more discomfort with others and with the environment. It's like a movie where I am both an actor and a spectator.
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Post by reden on Jan 20, 2023 1:25:57 GMT
What you and your shaman say resonates within me. I have that type of feeling too when I don't focus on loving and respecting myself. It can also create overheating effects on my body. I don't know if this happens to you, but there was a day where I was in a very good mood. I went to see my colleagues at work and I felt a shift in the environmental atmosphere, some people tended to be more friendly and welcoming. Shortly after, I heard a news that made me stressed, and suddenly some people started looking at me, as if I was a threat to them, and when I was on my way to home, someone tried to start a fight with me. It really felt like I was a targeted individual. Now I'm sure that if I were back to being in a good mood, those bad things would never happen. That's how I realized that many people can change the collective if they spent time working on themselves. Now I can easily shift back to a high vibrational state and I have no more discomfort with others and with the environment. It's like a movie where I am both an actor and a spectator. "It's like a movie where I am both an actor and a spectator." That's a nice/beautiful realization. In truth this is a place, not a movie. Sounds weird, but it more directly means we can change it, whereas a movie can be implied to be unchangeable. I voted both. |
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Post by AnthroHeart on Jan 20, 2023 17:08:55 GMT
I'm beginning to think that helping the collective may violate some free will.
So is it best not to help them, but only help yourself?
I get a general energy about me, and I work with that. I am not sure if it's the collective.
But if the collective feels angsty on me, I work with that energy to help it not be angsty.
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Post by reden on Jan 20, 2023 17:53:08 GMT
I'm beginning to think that helping the collective may violate some free will. So is it best not to help them, but only help yourself? I get a general energy about me, and I work with that. I am not sure if it's the collective. But if the collective feels angsty on me, I work with that energy to help it not be angsty. I believe that when you aid a collective, it smartly distributes the aid across its members. |
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Post by AnthroHeart on Jan 20, 2023 18:39:32 GMT
I'm beginning to think that helping the collective may violate some free will. So is it best not to help them, but only help yourself? I get a general energy about me, and I work with that. I am not sure if it's the collective. But if the collective feels angsty on me, I work with that energy to help it not be angsty. I believe that when you aid a collective, it smartly distributes the aid across its members. There are over 8 billion people in the collective. It might be better to focus on myself, because it will thin out the energy.
Can you really be effective to billions of people?
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Post by Victronyx on Jan 20, 2023 19:54:22 GMT
Maybe helping the collective is a blessing in disguise. I still think that it's necessary to help the collective know who they truly are and in what world they are living in. Otherwise they will still feed the artificial matrix.
I'm sure what you describe is the collective. When I tap into the energies of the collective consciousness, there is fear, doubts and chaos, but I also feel that there are more awarenesses.
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Post by AnthroHeart on Jan 23, 2023 22:34:39 GMT
I've been working on myself and I feel pretty good today.
I say focus on what you are called to. When I am called to focus on the collective again, I'll do that.
There is some collective angst getting through however.
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Post by justinw728 on Jan 28, 2023 21:27:27 GMT
Is it better to help the collective, or help yourself? It seems to me if you help yourself everyone gets helped regardless tbh. So, I do that mainly. I’ve literally seen people completely change from me just working on myself. |
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